EP 3 - The healing power of sacred dance over depression, trauma, and joint pain with Karyne Daniels

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The healing power of sacred dance over depression, trauma, and joint pain with Karyne Daniels

[00:00:00] Priscilla: Can you tell us a little bit about your business and how you got started?

[00:00:04] Karyne Daniels: Sure. Thank you for having me. I have been a dancer all of my life. I started at the age of three. I'm now 60. So it's been a path.

[00:00:16] And it's been a journey. I've learned most of my wisdom lessons on the dance floor. Or somewhere in the dance realm. But now I've gathered all of my wisdom and knowledge and I've created a company called Sacred Dance Path. And I mainly work with women around the world. And it is a very Healing and meditative dance form that I'm engaged in now.

[00:00:45] And that I share with my students as I am older now I can't move the way I used to I created a modality that I needed. To heal and to feel healthy. And that was gentle and accessible. So now I teach this movement system to women and offer them a doorway, an opportunity to come in, move their body, breathe, experience embodiment and healing, meditation, and prayer all through my sacred dance system.

[00:01:22] Priscilla: I love that. What's unique about your system that differentiates it from other dance programs out there?

[00:01:30] Karyne Daniels: My system is comprised of all of my knowledge in dance. So I began at the age of Three in a Polynesian restaurant. My parents used to go there and we're not Polynesian at all, but they would love to go to this restaurant.

[00:01:49] And I have memories of being three years old in this Polynesian restaurant, dancing to the music, the Hawaiian music. I, at age five, I started training. In Polynesian, which is Hawaiian, Tahitian, Samoan, and Maori dance. And I'm Mexican and Italian, but I loved it. That's all I wanted to do. And that's all I did till the age of 16.

[00:02:17] Then we moved to another town and I branched out into street dance. and urban and jazz. So I did that for 20 years and traveled and did a lot of choreography and had my own dance company. But when I moved here to Maui 19 years ago, I began to revisit my Polynesian roots as a dancer. And that's when I started creating my company, Sacred Dance Path, and it's a combination Polynesian and contemporary movement.

[00:02:56] So I've blended it to make a new dance. That's I don't know if you've ever seen hula, but it's very expressive. It tells story with the hands. It's very spiritual and it's very ancient. So it's an indigenous form of movement combined with. contemporary expressions. And of course, the backdrop is exquisitely beautiful music, and it really launches the dancer, the the student into just a beautiful space where they can express themselves, be who they are.

[00:03:32] And if they want to go deeper, they can pray as they're dancing and make it a spiritual experience. So that's a quick summary of my path.

[00:03:43] Priscilla: That's beautiful. I'd love to hear a little bit about your personal life. what dance means to you and how it has helped you on your health journey.

[00:03:52] Karyne Daniels: Yeah, dance has been everything to me. It has been my main field of learning. Almost. I want to say everything. Even going way back to when I was a child, when I first started, it was where I discovered who I was as a child, as I was attracted to this form of dance, Polynesian and not being of Polynesian descent and went to these classes weekly, several times a week, all the way through from five to 16.

[00:04:30] I learned what I loved. I learned what I was good at. I got validation from my instructor. I Felt at home. It was just it opened me up to a whole nother world and then when I moved into being a teenager, which you know, I had some difficult years because Depression and isolation and a little bit of confusion and not feeling like I belong set in heavily and then we moved also in the middle of my teenage years from Southern California to Northern California.

[00:05:10] I was lost. But I had my dance and so I would go there and I was like, I would always remember who I was cause that was where my roots were. And then in high school I was a cheerleader and a song leader. And again, I was like, okay, this is where I belong. This is my mind is clear. I'm happy when I'm dancing.

[00:05:33] And then I discovered that I love to choreograph because the other girls didn't want to choreograph the dance numbers. And I knew how to do it. I just had a vision. So I began choreographing our routines for the cheerleading. And I decided I think this is for me. I think I can, I think I can make a career out of this.

[00:05:56] So then dance transformed again to be my career. And so it led me into this place where I was now making money. Feeling fulfilled, again, feeling happy, feeling like this is my place, this is my strength, but I was very young, I was like 19, 20, 21, I didn't, my character wasn't developed yet, your character gets developed when you're in it.

[00:06:24] Situations like I had to be in a leadership role teaching people and teaching children and Leading groups and I was thrown into everything and then I had to learn, character development and the world will tell you When you're not doing things right and I didn't, a lot of times I didn't know how to speak to people.

[00:06:46] I didn't know how to make good decisions. Sometimes my decisions were self serving I had to learn how to be more sensitive to the children. I had to learn how to incorporate the parents. You name it, I learned it for 20 years. I like to say that God was developing my character as a dance teacher that was the excuse.

[00:07:08] Dance teaching was the excuse for me to grow. So that's where I grew in that and God really refined my character. Now, I'm at a place where I'm resting in my dance. I just, I get to just breathe and rest and enjoy the beauty and the healing within it because my character and my way of communing and communicating with people has really been refined.

[00:07:36] So now I feel like I can talk to anybody. And now I just enjoy the pleasure of this powerful modality and share it with women around the world.

[00:07:48] Priscilla: I think that's so beautiful. The character, that's something that we all need to grow in. It's so wonderful that you have that experience. You mentioned that dance looks like rest for you now?

[00:08:00] What does that look like now? And what does, you mentioned age and that change in your movement, what does all of that look like for you? How has dance

[00:08:11] Karyne Daniels: changed over the years? I've gathered so much dance wisdom and have Participated in so many professional projects that I just know who I am.

[00:08:25] I know who I am and I know who I'm not and that right there is so freeing to know what your yes is and to know what your no is. Having made so many mistakes and now my life is really refined. So What I know, what I do, and I know what I don't do, so I just stay in my lane. And my lane is sacred dance. So back in my 20s, I was a street dancer.

[00:08:55] I was doing hip hop and funk and street jazz to all the popular songs, just crazy dancing for years. I can't do that. I could do a, I do a lower level version of it in my classes, but now I could just rest in very gentle expression, which is the hula, which is very medicinal and meaningful because there's meaning in the movement and I don't have to break my neck.

[00:09:25] I don't have to extend myself. I just have to drop into this healing way of moving. And just enjoy it. And so that's what I mean where I get to rest now. Because the sacred dance is, it's not about exertion. It's about expression and also communicating with your creator. So when I say sacred dance people often ask me what that is.

[00:09:54] So sacred dance is different from secular movement, sec sacred dance is pinpointed on highlighting God through your dance. It's and who, you, some people like to say higher power or my creator however, whatever expression that is for you, that's the focal point of sacred dance is taking our consciousness off the world, off ourselves and putting it on our creator, focusing on that, and then dancing, which can be a form of worship or prayer or just meditation. But I do that in a very unique way, which I said before is using the Polynesian movement, using contemporary accents or expressions to really wonderful music.

[00:10:45] And the women appreciate to come in and not, have to exert themselves. We do sweat, but it's a very restful and gentle and flowy type of movement.

[00:10:58] Priscilla: That is beautiful. And I love everything that you said, about it being worship or expression. I love the phrase, not exertion, expression, dropping in and then like expressing outward. That was beautiful. Can you tell me a little bit about your personal story and what dance has done for you in terms of your overall well

[00:11:22] Karyne Daniels: being and mental health?

[00:11:24] It has been everything. Because I've had depression most of my life. I didn't know it till I was an adult, but when I discovered that I had depression in my mid twenties, I realized, oh, I think I've had this all my life. Because I've always been serious as a kid. And I thought, I'm just serious, and I've always been somber and just wanted to dance and do my thing. And not really, I didn't like playing games or being silly. I was silly with my girlfriends, but just couldn't wait to be out of school. Was done with all of that. I knew what I wanted to do. But I always had this aura over me. And most of my life, all the way up until probably my thirties, I wasn't very much of a smiler. And people would always say, especially when I was a kid, you should smile young lady. You're so pretty. You should smile. Why don't you smile? And I could always predict too when somebody was going to say that.

[00:12:28] And I was like, Oh God, here it comes. They're going to tell me to smile. And I didn't know anything was wrong with me, but I was diagnosed with depression. And so Once I was diagnosed, I went on antidepressants and I was on for 15 years and it did help. It helped bring me up a few notches as far as the smile, finding my, helping me achieve a smile and being able to talk to more people in my field and network a little bit easier. But the history of my depression is I think I just inherited it because once I met, I was adopted and I met my birth mother when I was 30 and that's when she gave me the revelation that she had depression and her mother had depression and that we are from a line of Italian women who were depressed.

[00:13:25] I was like, aha, there it is. So that kind of set me free too. But when I moved here to Maui after being here for three years, I just felt And within my, just the voice inside me saying, you're done with your antidepressants. We're going to do something different. And so I started weaning myself. I remember my daughter was three at the time and I weaned myself off the antidepressants and that's when I created my current company, Sacred Dance Path.

[00:14:00] As I was healing from the depression and also healing because I was going through my second divorce. All of it at the same time. I was thinking like, Okay, what am I going to do here on this island where I live? I'm going to be a single mom now again for the second time. And I'm not getting a 9 to 5. I have to figure out a way to keep my dance going.

[00:14:24] I have to reinvent it. I, that's what I did. I reinvented my dance into this gentle, healing, medicinal form of movement because that's what I needed at the time. So every morning after I set up my daughter in her area, she had her breakfast, she was playing now and she was content. I went across the room and started dancing and started creating and listening.

[00:14:52] I was like, What am I supposed to do with my dance? And I felt like I wanted to do something now that I'm older, that was meaningful, that told a story that had healing properties in it. And that was it was beautiful to do and it was low impact for the non dancer. So I created this movement and so now it's 12 or 13 years later.

[00:15:21] Here I am and I'm still doing it and it healed me from that period of time of when I weaned myself off of the depressants, my divorce. It just, that dance ushered me into my new life.

[00:15:37] Priscilla: I was curious if you had a similar experience to me because I was just laughing. on the inside as you were talking about oh, I think I always had depression. That sounds like a funny thing to laugh about, but even like we were talking about people were telling you to smile. I had that experience so much as a teenager.

[00:16:00] Going through abuse and not saying anything about it, but just, it would be like, oh, you should smile more, and you're right. After a while, you can tell, oh, this person, Is going to tell me to smile. So when you're saying that, I was like, Oh my gosh, yes. Like I've had that. And I don't know if this is similar for you, but I feel like when I discovered I had depression, like this was my base level, like I was always down here.

[00:16:20] And then when I went on the antidepressant within two to three days for me, I went up to here and I was like, is this what it's like? And I didn't even have like seasonal affective disorder on top of my depression. It was the first winter in my life that I ever enjoyed. And I was like blown away by it.

[00:16:36] And for a while, I couldn't cry. But then my signal for me that I would come off antidepressant was I started to be able to cry. And I was like, Oh, my antidepressants not working anymore. Maybe I need to like up the dosage. But what happened is I'd go down and like having a moment of tears, then I'd come back to my baseline.

[00:16:56] And sometimes I'd have joy, but then come back to my baseline. And I was like, Maybe I don't need to up my dosage. Maybe my baseline has just been adjusted finally and I can get off. And so I tried that and I wouldn't say I'm fully not ever like down, but like my level of where I operate out of. It's so much better.

[00:17:18] And I'm curious if you had some of that too, like where you just felt like you moved up a level and just like overall, not as serious. I definitely felt like always thinking you're serious as a child.

[00:17:30] Karyne Daniels: Yeah maybe that, But I liked it. I didn't think anything was wrong. I was like, I'm just older than everyone is what I used to think.

[00:17:37] I used to think I'm just more mature. So I just, It was okay with me, but it was like other people that didn't, that weren't okay with it. And so that kind of put a stigma on me where I thought something was wrong. But I really enjoyed being serious and working on my craft at a young age. But when I started the antidepressants it worked.

[00:18:02] It worked for many years. And, I feel like I just used it as a tool for a certain amount of time. And then, like I said, I heard the inner voice say, you're done. You've learned everything you need to learn from this modality, and now you can let it go. So when I let it go, I felt great. I just, I, it was just a complete stop.

[00:18:28] It was like, that's over done. And then I knew I carried all the lessons that I learned for as far as communication and networking and working with people. All of that stayed with me. Everything I learned on the antidepressants stayed with me and I took it forward. And then it was actually the sacred dance that took over where I really found my joy and my smile.

[00:18:57] That smile. And I actually even include the curriculum of smiling into my dance classes. So they say, I don't know if you've heard this before, but they say you teach what you most need to learn. And so I've learned to smile, so now I teach it to other people. And I tell the women, smiling is part of the choreography.

[00:19:23] And so I invite the women to purposely smile as we're dancing. And I don't know. And I, yeah I smile a lot and I, it's I feel like I've completely been healed when I think about my life today and how happy I am. I'm like, wow, this is I can only say God because I love to smile. I smile all day long.

[00:19:47] I'm always looking for people as I'm out in public or shopping. I'm like always ready to connect with people and not have any walls up or separation. I'm just in the world now. And I don't know. I believe. The dance kind of assisted all of these transformations because, it's the moving.

[00:20:10] It's moving your body and activating your energy which helps with any type of healing you're doing. Because if you're trying to heal from anything or most things, I don't want to say anything, but you're stagnant and you're just not moving energy through your body, it's harder to heal.

[00:20:27] Because you need to move energy to assist whatever it is you're trying to do. So I attribute the dancing to my healing, for sure.

[00:20:40] Priscilla: I think there's so much truth to that, even though we're talking more expression than exertion. The science, I think, is catching up. In regards to there's in psychology, brain spotting, emotion coding, like all these ways to process emotions.

[00:20:58] And they do talk about for like depression that one of the big things is exercise. It's hard to exercise when you're depressed. Like it can be I mean. For you it was dance and for me when I was younger I had horses And a movement that you find very joyful can be easy to do, but any other movement, at least my experience can be very hard.

[00:21:22] Karyne Daniels: You have to find your lane. You have to find what works for you because I sports, I was like, no. I don't kick balls, I don't run, don't ask me to dive, I don't jump off of cliffs. I don't do anything but dance. That's like my lane and I find everything for me in that lane.

[00:21:41] So you definitely can, should find your path. But one of my messages is. You are a dancer, even if you've never danced. So I have this message that I give to the non dancer, the people that think, no, I have two left feet or there's no way, I've never danced in my life and I'm not starting now. You really are dancing.

[00:22:06] You are dancing every day. You're doing the dance of life. If you walk, if you move from side to side, if you're breathing. You are dancing in your life. You're doing your dance. You're moving through your life. So one of my programs is to lead the non dancer into their own self expression. And it could even be as simple as just lifting your hands and swaying back and forth to your favorite song.

[00:22:35] We all have a favorite song. Everyone has at least one song that they like. Pick that song and do a dance a day to your favorite song and do it with all your might, with all your heart, with all your mind, block everything out, leave your phone in the other room, do it for three minutes or however long that song is and you will see a transformation because your brain and your body recognize happiness. They do. It's, it is intrinsic and inherent to the human to be happy. And sometimes we have to do a happy dance to stir it up. Some people are just happy, they could, they were born that way, but some of us we have to dig for it, and we have to pull the layers.

[00:23:23] Dance can do that.

[00:23:25] Priscilla: I really do think the science with both movement being so essential doctors will say you have to move that's part of helping your depression. That ties into your dance, and then the expression I think another part of depression that I've heard is that it's like repressing emotions, like stuffing it all in and you're in essence doing the opposite.

[00:23:49] Karyne Daniels: It's like rattling something to the surface. Is what you're doing. So I can't even tell you how many times in my classes the women go into tears and they're like, I don't know why I'm crying. I don't know. I'm like, I know why, because you're rattling up things that have been buried or just stuck and the dance kind of moves it up to the surface.

[00:24:15] It makes it come out your eyes. Or it can make that smile come out. Dance is a tool that does help us dislodge things. And, on the other side, it can bring up pain. I work with a lot of women who have trauma. And many of us women have trauma. And, It could bring it up. The dancing brings it up, and then we dance it out.

[00:24:43] We let that thing go. So that's really prevalent with the hula, because the hula is centered around the hips. And many women have trauma and violation in the hips. So they don't even want to move anymore. They're frozen and numb in that area. And the hula brings them gently back to the core, to their original purity, where they can begin to move that area in a very sacred and pure way and remember who they truly are.

[00:25:21] And then the healing comes in to that area, to the hips, to the, what I call the nurturing center the creation center. And the hula is like oil. It's like a warm anointing oil that goes into that area and gives the woman permission to live again.

[00:25:41] Priscilla: I have heard massage therapists, also talk about this concept of trauma in the hip even if you haven't had a sexual trauma, which you might think of in that way any trauma stored in the hip that's where it goes.

[00:25:56] Karyne Daniels:

[00:25:57] That's where it goes. We can store it in, a lot of places, but we store a lot in our hips as women. It's just the center of our body. It's, when we walk, we sway, there's a little swivel to us. We're born that way, We've received a lot of negative attention too in that area and So your hips are like a sponge they absorb that and then if you've had actual physical trauma and Violation and then you were told to keep quiet about it and then you keep living and you think you're okay I mean it just compiles So the dance that I do that I lead my women to unlocks all of that so one of the movements we do is just circling the hip from a bent knee, bending the knees, elongating the spine, breathing, there's a divine breath that we do, and then a gentle circle of the hips.

[00:26:59] And when the women get used to that, I tell them to close their eyes. Now, pray the healing that you want to experience. And that alone, I have seen transformation.

[00:27:17] Priscilla: That was so powerful, like you're combining the mind and the body.

[00:27:20] Karyne Daniels:    Yeah. We have to. We have to. Women have been through a lot.

[00:27:26] Priscilla: One of the things that we've touched on when we were first talking was forgiveness and healing components of  that.

[00:27:34] Karyne Daniels: Which goes right along with what we were just talking about. So this modality that I use is called. It is a Hawaiian prayer system for restoration. So I've used this. on women who come to me specifically with trauma. And I also use it as a staple component in my classes because doing this prayer activation on a weekly basis is really what women need.

[00:28:04] But what it is really, if Any of your listeners have not heard of Hooponopono. It is a Hawaiian prayer, and it's ancient, and it's still used today as a tool for restoration, whether that be with family members, two people, a married couple, or anyone you're having conflict with. And it's very simple, and it's comprised of four phrases, and the phrases are, I'm sorry, Please forgive me.

[00:28:39] I love you. And thank you. So in my classes, we do it in a dance form. We dance those sentiments and for a woman with trauma, it would be I'm sorry I held this so long when I could have given this up to God for healing sooner. Please forgive me. Forgive me for this and anything I'm holding on to that Attached to me or wasn't mine.

[00:29:12] And then the sentiment where you say, I love you, that's you loving yourself. Because sometimes we have to love ourselves back home. So you're telling yourself, I love you, or you're saying it to God or to that person. You want to let them go with love. You choose how you want to apply that.

[00:29:35] And then the final sentiment, thank you. Everything we go through, even the good, the bad, it's all, it all works together for good to grow us into the people we are designed to be. And we all have our stories and our traumas, but I really wouldn't change any of mine because I've healed.

[00:30:06] And I can see that now I have wisdom that I can share firsthand with other people. So you convert your trauma into a positive, is what you do, so that you say thank you. Thank you for pulling me through. Thank you for, I survived. There's a lot of things you can say thank you about your negative situation and in that way you heal even faster.

[00:30:35] So this Ho'oponopono very transformative, life changing, and I use it in my dance classes.

[00:30:45] Priscilla: I love that. That's so beautiful. Particularly for me, what's hitting me is that I'm sorry because Acknowledging that you've held on to things and that you could have released them is beautiful, but also like to thank you.

[00:30:59] I think in my own personal journey with my body, there was a period where I just body positivity is a big word that's slung around right now. And part of that for me was thank you. It's like saying thank you body for getting me through that trauma.

[00:31:16] Karyne Daniels:

[00:31:17] Yeah.

[00:31:19] Priscilla: So beautiful.

[00:31:25] Is there anything else that you feel you would like to share before we wrap up and then one thing that I want to do with each of my guests is if you have a big megaphone and you could just yell one thing into a crowd of people and get some people's attention and change some lives.

[00:31:45] What would that be? For women. For women's health.

[00:31:48] Karyne Daniels:

[00:31:49] First thing I would say, and it might be one and the same, the both things I, I would say, and I really think my megaphone is, and I think I said it earlier, is that you are. A dancer, but I like to spell the word dancer in a different way. And I think once I tell you the spelling, you'll understand.

[00:32:11] So if you can, visualize the word answer and then just put a D in front of it. So you are the d-answer, meaning you are the answer. You have the answers inside of you, and when you dance it, those answers come to the surface. You have everything you need. My megaphone moment would be to tell every woman that first of all, you are sacred. You are a sacred woman, and my hope is that you live your life that way. But the sacred woman also has a dance that she does. That's how special God made us. He made us these incredible feminine women, divine feminine, very powerful, but we also have a dance we do. And it's not just the dance of taking care of our families and cooking dinners and taking care of the household and being a magician there, but you have a literal dance that you can do.

[00:33:20] That benefits you. This sacred dance of the sacred woman, the purpose is to tune you up. So you could stay in tune, tap in, be able to hear the voice of the spirit. That's what the sacred woman does. She is the light wherever she goes. So I would say that she is the dancer. The word answer with a D in front of it, the dancer.

[00:33:48] So you can dance your answers into your life or even for other people that are in your charge. So that would be my message.

[00:33:59] Priscilla: If someone would like to work with you, what are your offerings that you offer year round and anything special that you might be offering?

[00:34:08] Karyne Daniels: Yes. They can contact me at my website, which is sacreddancepath.org.

[00:34:15] And on my website, there's all of my offerings are there as well as a way to contact me. You can sign up for my newsletter so you could be in the know of all of the things that I'm doing. And I offer a free class every month to women around the world. It's on zoom and it's a way for all of us to gather and do this beautiful movement.

[00:34:39] You don't need any experience. It's geared toward beginners, so I believe you are going to include that link to my next free offering with this podcast, but you can also sign up for that on my website as well. I also offer retreats, so if there's any of you beautiful women out there that are feeling like, you know what, I want to do, I want to get away and have a few days to myself and just immerse in this, on Maui, which is a beautiful place and do an immersion with me.

[00:35:15] I could lead you in that but you could even do it as a group if you have a group of women, a women's group, or just your best friends, or even your daughters or your family. We can create a very special, intimate, spiritual lovely experience that You will never forget. So I offer those. And then of course, I have my social media that you can find me and see dance samples.

[00:35:43] I'm on Facebook under Sacred Dance Path Ministry and then on Instagram, which is Sacred Dance Path with an underscore in between each word. Yeah, I'm out there. You can find me. Just Google Sacred Dance Path.

[00:36:01] Priscilla: And I have to put a plug in for your videos on Facebook and all of that.

[00:36:07] If anyone goes and watches them, like one of them that was like a prayer, just watching it, like nearly moved me to tears. I was like, Oh my gosh, so beautiful. So definitely worth checking out your Facebook and all your videos. Thank you. What are some additional things I believe you have?

[00:36:30] Karyne Daniels: I'm looking to collaborate. I think I flourish most when I'm in collaboration. Oftentimes I've been brought in to women's retreats that somebody else established and put on and I bring a dance component to whatever the retreat is and I can convert this dance to fit any theme.

[00:36:56] Even corporate situations I can get people up and moving and this includes men and women. My specialty is women, but I've worked with mixed gender audiences and I don't mind, but Yeah, I've traveled to different places to bring the dance, whether it's a morning activation each day at another retreat, I did a morning activation and an evening one.

[00:37:22] And then I even choreographed a dance that throughout the duration of the retreat, the attendees learned and performed it at the final ceremony, which is. So fun. And I'm also looking to travel to speak about this very important healing dance and give more talks, keynotes, speaker opportunities, and demonstrations so that I can spread the word about sacred dance.

[00:37:52] Priscilla: I love that. I think that would be incredible.

[00:37:56] Karyne Daniels: Thank you.

[00:37:57] Priscilla: You should do a TED talk. I feel like you should do a TED talk. Is that something you're going to do?

[00:38:02] Karyne Daniels: I can't believe you said that because I'm on the path. I just boom, just got on the path of trying to figure out how to become a speaker. So I feel like I have all of this knowledge and I do have. some good subjects that I can create talks around. So that's what I'm doing I'm gonna take a training course in a few weeks and I'm gonna be talking with a TEDx coach in a few days just to Give him my ideas and see you, what his feedback is. So you zoned in on that

[00:38:38] Priscilla: I didn't even say the word coach, but that's like where my brain was that it was like that TED x coach is like where, yeah, no, I think that would be incredible.

[00:38:48] Karyne Daniels: I feel it and I see it and also because, I do have those aches and pains in my body. I'm going to continue dancing, I have to try to find other outlets where I'm not always moving, where I can just take everything that's in my head, which is a lot. and bring it to a stage where I can do the least amount of movement but touch as many people through the knowledge, through the dance wisdom is what I call it.

[00:39:17] And then those who are interested would come to me and then I can create programs for them.

[00:39:23] Priscilla: I think that would be incredible because I'm sure there are people who would, just like there's people who like learn to do yoga, I'm sure there's people who would love to learn how to do this, like maybe have that calling but haven't quite figured it out until they like hear your talk and they're like, yes, that's it.

[00:39:42] Karyne Daniels: Yeah, I hope so. That's what I'm hoping to do with it. Especially with the one you are a dancer, that would be the title of one of my talks. You are a dancer, even if you've never danced and show people that your first dance is just one step away. It's right there in your atmosphere and no one has told you, you can. So I would like lead the audience too and have everyone lift their arm. Okay. See, you're halfway there. Lift your other arm. And then the music would come on and we'd start swaying. And before you know it, everyone would be freestyling.

[00:40:18] So my ultimate goal is for everyone to know that movement is healing and it just clears your mind. I know so many times I get cobwebs or I feel heavy and if I just go do a little dance I come out completely different. So we need that. Everyone needs to do this because we live in very interesting times, a lot is going on the earth, we need to stay tuned up. We need to stay clear, lit up from within so that we can really hold the light and do good. And this dance will help people do that.

[00:40:58] Priscilla: That is so good. I almost feel like that was like your second like megaphone moment where you're like, movement is healing.

[00:41:05] This is.

[00:41:06] Karyne Daniels: Yeah, I got two megaphones there.

[00:41:09] Priscilla: You're like, you can figure it out. You are the answer. But also like movement is part of the answer. Exactly. Thank you for doing this. I'm so excited for everyone to get to listen to this. Hopefully hop on one of your online because that's incredible that you offer a monthly online option that anyone can just hop on. I'm going to have to do that. Yeah, that's so incredible. Anyone who listens to this. You can take that next step.

[00:41:39] Karyne Daniels:

[00:41:40] Come dance with me. I would love to have you in there. I'm looking forward to seeing you move and you don't even have to have your screen on. Some of the women keep it blocked off cause they just want that privacy and that's fine too.

[00:41:53] My, my heart is just for you to move. So please come join us.

[00:41:58] Priscilla: Gosh, it has to be so incredible to do dance in Hawaii. If someone's planning a vacation, yeah,

[00:42:05] Karyne Daniels: I do that all the time. I work with tourists every week. That's like my side hustle. So I get. calls from tourists, they find me online and they say, Oh, me and my family, we'd love to learn the hula.

[00:42:19] So I'll go to their location. If there's usually they're staying by the ocean or in a condo and there's a nice place for us to dance or they want to come up country to where I live. There's a place here called the sacred garden and I take them there and we go learn hula there. And they're so appreciative.

[00:42:39] They're like, this was the best part. of our vacation. I'm so glad we did this because when you come here, you want to experience the culture. So the, one of the best ways to experience the culture is through the dance of the people. I bring that to them and they're very appreciative and thankful that they did it.

[00:42:58] So yeah, contact me. We'll dance.

[00:43:02] Priscilla: That is so beautiful. Thank you. Thank you, Priscilla.